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RE: [amibroker] Re: more zig()



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Jayson,So to sum things up, based on my chart, the only reliable 
signal is p1 unless p has exceeded its % level and then at that time t1 
becomes reliable. <FONT 
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 p once it exceeds its % 
level can be referred to as if it were p1 or peak(close,1,1)only when it 
reverses, even before it hits it new % level but is subject to change. 
Now when I refer to peak(close,1,1) sometimes it will be p1 and 
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<FONT 
face=Arial>There is the rub, in a formula using peak/trough p1 will be 
referenced as the LAST peak even if P has exceeded its %. The code will 
reference P as the last peak once it turns down even BEFORE that move is 
confirmed. Peak simply looks for ref(c,-2)<ref(c,-1) 
and c<ref(c,-1). (or a " ^" in the chart) So the last peak is open 
to change until that move is confirmed. Bottom line is the last leg of zig and 
consequently the last Peak (or 
trough) are always open to change until such time as the move has exceeded the % 
setting. This is what makes testing using Zig so dangerous. All the erased 
direction changes are not reflected in your results. Zig is historically ALWAYS 
correct but, in RT, revisions are often being 
made.
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<FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>jayson Thanks, this is causing me brain 
damagewdbaker--- In amibroker@xxxx, "Jayson" <jcasavant@xxxx> 
wrote:> wdbaker,> > Jayson,> So are you saying that 
t1 in my example below is not really t1> until p exceeds the set % level, 
Correct, Zig may draw the line but it may> also erase that line prior 
to hitting the % level> >   if this is so, can t1 even 
be called> trough(close,1,1) while p has not hit set % level?> 
> An unconfirmed trough.  The problem with zig is that looking at a 
chart it> is ALWAYS right, but while the chart is tracing a new leg 
that leg is open> to change. Do not try to back test a system based 
on zig because the results> will not reflect how trades would develop 
in RT. It is a great tool for fib> studies but it can get you ina 
whole lot of trouble if you do not> understand how it works.> 
> jayson> > > p2......p1> > -.......-> 
> .-.....-.-.....p> > ..-...-...-...-> > 
...-.-.....-.-> > ....-.......-> > ....t2......t1> 
> > Thanks> wdbaker8> --- In amibroker@xxxx, 
"Jayson" <jcasavant@xxxx> wrote:> > Once the percentage setting 
from your last pivot has been exceeded> and> > reversing move 
will result in a new line. That new line may vanish> if the> > 
stock again reverses prior to exceeding its percentage move. So,> the 
move is> > confirmed once the % is exceeded and a new line is drawn. 
that new> line is> > confirmed once the percentage from the 
last pivot is exceeded and> so on and> > so on......> 
>> > Here is an example of a 10% Zig.....> >> 
>> >> > Jayson> >> > -----Original 
Message-----> > From: wdbaker8 [mailto:wdbaker8@xxxx]> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:28 PM> > To: 
amibroker@xxxx> > Subject: [amibroker] more zig()> >> 
>> > All,> > Trying to understand this zig() thing better 
so> > I know when I can or can't use it.> > What has to 
happen for p below to become p1 as in peak(close,1,1)> > Can it become 
p1 after it has surpassed its> > % move while still moving in thesame 
direction or> > does it have to reach its % move and then 
reverse> > direction before it changes from p to p1?> >Does 
p ever become p1 before it reverses?> > p1 = p1 until 
____________  happens and then p1 becomes p2> >> > 
p2......p1> > -.......-> > .-.....-.-.....p> > 
..-...-...-...-> > ...-.-.....-.-> > ....-.......-> 
> ....t2......t1> >> > Thanks for your help :)> 
> wdbaker8> >> >> 
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