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Re: Optimal solutions of the past and future profits



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First let me say thank you for your contribution StochRSI and for
that matter the CMO5...

On your attached QQQ chart, the signal in May 2002 doesn't look like 
its confirmed by the 21 sma filter...is this correct or is it just 
the graphics...

Thanks again.

--- In amibroker@xxxx, "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxx> wrote:
> "I will not speak again for Stochastic RSI"
> 
> Thank God. For those that are interested:
> 
> Me and the boyz (and grrls) covered our short positions (QQQ) on 
the opening yesterday. In the worst market in recent memory, the 
system has now profited on ten out of the last eleven trades. The 
single loser was -.75, with the winners summing 27.16. Profits since 
11/1/01 have exceeded the underlying price of the issue. The 
approach is traded by many, with real money. Nothing has been 
changed or tweaked for years. Over the years, many forum members 
have received this formula by "politlely" asking for it (see formula 
section of website). It continues to produce "out-of-sample" (and 
more importantly, in real accounts).
> 
> Again, the StoRSI is a tool to unlock profits in the QQQ. Used 
with a simple 21 period SMA, it continues "ring the register". It's 
hard to believe that anyone would "lobby" against an approach that 
continues to produce profits. If anyone decides to risk capital on 
this issue (or others), one must decide on an approach and then 
actually implement it. I do not have a new approach every week for 
this market. This is the one and only approach I have ever posted 
for this trading vehicle.
> 
> I am convinced that there are hundreds and maybe thousands of 
systems that will trade the Q's better. This is just one, simple 
approach that has been "public" and that has not changed for years. 
I have nothing to hide and nothing to sell. Please take the 
information and improve on it.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Steve Karnish, CTA
> Cedar Creek Trading
> www.cedarcreektrading.com
> 1-877-668-1125
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Dimitris Tsokakis 
> To: amibroker@xxxx 
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:34 AM
> Subject: [amibroker] Optimal solutions of the past and future 
profits
> 
> 
> Last June 5, 2001, I posted to this list the Tushar Chande 
Stochastic RSI and my Stochastic CCI.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/message/2394
> I will not speak again for Stochastic RSI, we have seen a lot of 
details for this popular indicator, which
> presents now an optimal solution [8-13-87] for QQQ, running at a 
+250% for the last 30 months.
> Besides the difficult question of the selection of this [8-13-87] 
combination [although I read ...carefully
> the messages, I have not seen any kind of explanation, serious or 
humorous, by the user of this combination]
> I wrote that this +250% is not one of the best QQQ performances.
> We have seen a lot of QQQ systems running between +500% and +600% 
or better.
> I understand that it is not fair to compare different design 
approaches. It is very difficult for Stochastic RSI to
> be competitive to D-ratio or RSIt or MeanRSI TTM.
> So, let us compare the quite similar Stochastic RSI and 
Stochastic CCI.
> Beginning from March 2000 till June 2001, there were two almost 
equal solutions for the respective
> StochCCI system, [I follow symmetric triggering just for the 
comparison under equal terms, my personal opinion 
> for symmetric triggering is analytically expressed in other 
postings]running at +303% and +302%, with 
> equal # of 10 trades/9 winners/1 loser, as you may see in the 
StochCCI 1 gif .
> You could select one of them or both of them.
> Now, one year later, we may see the [7,13] at +405% and the 
[6,15] at +1199%.[StoCCI2 gif]
> I do not believe that there were serious criteria on June 2001 to 
select the [7,13] or the [6,15].
> CCI differentiation is almost invisible, if you change the period 
from 6 to 7.
> You surely need a magnifier to separate BuyLevel=13 from 
BuyLevel=15 .
> If we forget these details, a +1199% may sounds great.
> It is up to you to decide if you prefer attractive calculations 
or positive trading techniques.
> Anyway, if you are interested in this invividualistic trading 
style and if you prefer Stochastic oscillators, try
> Stochastic CCI among the others. It is not popular but it is a 
bit smarter.
> Dimitris Tsokakis
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