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----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Holzgrefe 
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Winning Systems


Thanks P 
I see what you mean and looking at the signal from the indicator that Tomposted it seem very clear visually that if the bars are black its trendinggreen upward and red downward .
I was trying to capture that thought in an exploration 

once I had the essence of the trend correct in an exploration then apply filters

so a rule maybe along the lines of black impending direction change, green a buy zone 
red a sell . 

As you pointed out the peaks also signal the direction change .

the indicator looks tradable but would need testing to confirm 

So I guess what I'm asking is has anyone coded a exploration to suit thisindicator so a more extensive backtest can be completed ?

HMM maybe this should be posted in the new ts group 

Thanks David 

   
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To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Winning Systems


David,  

Why are you delaying your signals so much by using <>0? Have a look, its the peak or reversal that is your friend. It should put you on high alert. z<ref(z,-1)>ref(z,-2). Assuming EOD then act using the previous day's (i.e z) low to sell , and its high as a stop if declining and vice versa when entering today (which would be z+1). This will get you in at least on avarage a day earlier.

The system is an in the market always approach, so you may like to add some rules that trim this back for safety.

P
----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Holzgrefe 
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Winning Systems


Thanks Tom 
I was thinking more along the lines of an exploration code 
to create buy sell signals for backtesting.

I tried this thinking it would capture the movements but it seem to give false signals that done appear correct compared to chart .

maybe I have read the signal wrong ?

Buy = CCI() > 0 ;

Sell = CCI() < 0 ;

Buy = ExRem( Buy, Sell );

Sell = ExRem( Sell, Buy );



Thanks David


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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2>There are several programs that use this type of 
indicator (not necessarily the same one) to color the bars, thereby leavingmore 
room for other indicators, larger chart, etc.&nbsp; I know that one of the other 
indicators used is Williams %R.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2>Bill</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<A title=dtholz@xxxx href="mailto:dtholz@xxxx";>David 
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxx 
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:23 
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [amibroker] Winning 
Systems</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks P </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I see what you mean and looking at the signal 
from the indicator that Tom posted it seem very clear visually that if the 
bars are black its trending green upward and red downward&nbsp;.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was trying to capture that thought in an 
exploration </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>once I had the essence of the trend correct in an 
exploration then apply filters</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so a rule maybe along the lines of black 
impending direction change, green a buy&nbsp;zone </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>red a sell .</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As you pointed out the peaks also signalthe 
direction change .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the indicator looks tradable&nbsp;but would&nbsp; 
need testing to confirm </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So I guess what I'm asking is has anyonecoded a 
exploration to suit this indicator so a more extensive backtest can be 
completed ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>HMM maybe this should be posted in the new ts 
group </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks David </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 05, 2001 9:01 
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [amibroker] Winning 
Systems</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David,&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why are you delaying your signals so much by 
using &lt;&gt;0? Have a look, its the peak or reversal that is your 
friend.&nbsp; It should put you on high alert.&nbsp; 
z&lt;ref(z,-1)&gt;ref(z,-2).&nbsp; Assuming EOD then act using the previous 
day's (i.e z)&nbsp;low to sell , and its high as a stop if declining and 
vice versa when entering today (which would be z+1).&nbsp; This will get you 
in at least on avarage a day earlier.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The system is an in the market always approach, 
so you may like to add some rules that trim this back for 
safety.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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<A title=dtholz@xxxx href="mailto:dtholz@xxxx";>David 
Holzgrefe</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 05, 20017:50 
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [amibroker] Winning 
Systems</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was thinking more along the lines of an 
exploration code </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to create buy sell signals for 
backtesting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I tried this thinking it would capture the 
movements but it seem to give false signals that done appear correct 
compared to chart .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>maybe I have read the signal wrong 
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>
<P>Buy</B> = </FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff 
size=2>CCI</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>() &gt; </FONT><FONT 
face="Courier New" color=#ff00ff size=2>0</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" 
size=2> ;</P><B>
<P>Sell</B> = </FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff 
size=2>CCI</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>() &lt; </FONT><FONT 
face="Courier New" color=#ff00ff size=2>0</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" 
size=2> ;</P><B>
<P>Buy</B> = </FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff 
size=2>ExRem</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>( <B>Buy</B>, 
<B>Sell</B> );</P><B>
<P>Sell</B> = </FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff 
size=2>ExRem</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>( <B>Sell</B>, 
<B>Buy</B> );</P></FONT></DIV>
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