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Re: [amibroker] Vertical Lines



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This is not the place to go into these 
things.  As a generality any horse can make it around the track. Some 
are better than others.  The fact that almost any method scrutinised to an 
inch of its life coupled with money management speaks volumes for money 
management.  By money management I mean simply GET OUT when it 
doesn't go you way from the start.  I'm my own worst adherent of this 
one.  Why is it so important to be able to  get a time and price from 
a single high or low?  Would anybody seriously invest 5% of their wealth on 
a single data point?  So what's the point?
 
I've had a go at Gann and the problem is for 
me that its not IMNSHO even as useful as my favourite P&F.  Not only 
does it not have timing but it doesn't give any sense of "storing of 
energy".  I've thought that a 3D square where time spent at a price 
accumulated vertically might be useful.  But my biggest problem is that it 
doesn't seem grounded in anything substantial.   Even Fibbonacci seems 
to be reflected or grounded in some natural mathematical order.  At best if 
Gann provides a set of definite rules that are adhered to maybe that's its 
strength or best point.  
 
I've read almost "Truth of the Stock Tape"& 
"Wall Street Stock Selector" by Gann.  My conclusion was that the markets 
in his day were different and he applied a great deal of unknown but appreciable 
sub-conscious pattern recognition and judgement to his work - at least I think 
so.  Interpretation still has plenty of scope.  Gold may well have fit 
within $0.50 but I'm also sure that someone's RSI, or MACD or whatever had 
settings that hit it too.  
 
I spent a bit of time in misc.invest.technical and 
misc.invest.futures newsgroups and of those whose opinions and experience Icame 
to believe was based on solid years of experience, they didn't have much 
kind to say about Gann compared to other approaches.  I suggest a vistto 
www.deja.com and and see Hershey for 
example.  
 
I suggest that multiple tools operating in 
different time frames, an awareness of the inherent lags or anticipatory nature 
of the tool/indicator/oscillator/chicken entrails coupled with MM will do the 
trick more than GANN.
 
But the beauty is....its your money...anyone can 
play ....nobody is right absolutely...
 
now if only I could figure out how to apply 
sectors, markets and industries (or is that markets groups and sectors) to 
stocks in Amibroker I'll be right.
 
P
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You are confusing a Gann Square with a Gann Square 
of 9.  I am not trying to generate a Gann Square of 9 on a chart, but a 
Gann square based on the Square of 9.
 
I am curious, however, 
do you have any evidence that 
either is a "bunch of crap?"  Do you know how to generate a square 
or even use it properly?  Do you have another technique that generates 
time and price from a single high or low point?  The attached is a recent 
example of the square for gold from the 4/2/01 low.  The 180 degree level 
is 289 and the actual was 288.5.  The square in time is 16 and is one day 
off.  Do you have anything that could make these projections based on the 
4/2/01 low?  Would love to see a valid alternative.  

 
Could other TA have made similar projections.  
Probably.  Does this mean that I don't use Gann stuff - no.  I use 
anything and everything that works.
 
I am not a Gann defender, nor an Elliott or 
Fibonacci or anything defender.  If you have a defendable basis for 
rejecting a particular methodology then please share it with the group.  
Otherwise, one might get the impression that your opinions are totally 
subjective in nature.
 
By the way, although I am not a student of Gann, I 
have read that when he died he had $50MM in an offshore bank that was shielded 
from his family or at least some of them.
 
Good luck in your trading.
 
Bill
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Subject: Re: [amibroker] Vertical 
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I've never seen such a thing.  Gann 
squares are usually a table drawn by hand in a spiral where the key dates 
are those at certain angles of the square (or hexagon).  Numbering 
starts at the centre and radiates outwards in a spiral.  When a price 
is hit at say the 90deg radial then usually it means the next stop of is 
another quadrant angle such as 45, 180, 270 (from memory).  So whatever 
price was at that point is the possible up/downside.
 
Frankly I think its a bunch of crap.  
Plenty of newsgroups don't give this approach much credit and note thatGann 
survived on the money from his family business not from trading. Or so I'm 
told.
 
How its proposed to turn all this intoan 
indicator I wait with interest - academic interest not serious trading 
interest.
 
P
 
 
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Subject: [amibroker] Vertical 
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I am trying to build an indicator that will 
generate a Gann square.  The horizontal levels are OK, but I cannot 
figure out how to draw vertical lines after calculating their 
values.  Does anyone know how this can be done.
 
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